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 Post subject: Psycho, aspect ratio
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:04 am 
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Inspired by martin-f's detective-work on The Wrong Man, I dug out my ten-year-old VHS tape of a broadcast print of Psycho and ran it on a 4:3 telly alongside the Region-2 DVD, playing on the eMac. Perhaps someone with access to the Region-1 DVD can say how far the following applies to that also.

Although a little was lost from the sides of the television print, it was certainly not scanned & panned. In contrast, a great deal of the picture was cropped from the top and bottom on the "widescreen" DVD. I can't take screen-shots of the television alas!

The composition seemed to me to be more satisfying in the television print. Low ceilings and doorways help to give the picture a greater depth of field. Exteriors also benefitted and appeared to have been framed with the squarer ratio in mind. Take the mountain-range where Marion takes a fateful fork in the road: this shot is handsomely-composed in the television print with the rolling mountains fully in the frame with sky above. On the DVD, the tops of the mountains are brutally lopped off and the composition seems flatter.

Shots of Marion driving are so commonly reproduced as to be nearly as iconic as the shower scene. Yet some details are entirely invisible on the DVD. For instance the curved speedometer is illuminated beneath the windscreen-wiper - only the moulding is visible as a dark region on the DVD. You might also never realise that the steering wheel has an inner concentric chromium horn.

The Motel has an illuminated Office sign over the door. It is in full view in many more shots in the 4:3 print. Its glow is detectable in some shots on the DVD but the sign itself has been cropped. I am sure Hitchcock wanted it to be seen: it may remind the viewer of the site of Marion's crime and the way it continues to glow suggests that Norman's work is continuing.

The low ceilings and the oppressive stuffed birds of the study are again iconic yet one of the best shots is of a large owl whose outspread wings cast a giant shadow on the ceiling. You will see the owl and miss the shadow completely on the DVD. It dominates the scene as it should on the television print.

The compositional use of circles in the shower scene is often commented on. Yet the famous reverse zoom shot as the camera screws and retreats from Marion's face is much less effective when most of the twist has been completed before her lower face is in view. Slightly later, the rounded lines of the basin Norman washes in are cropped on the DVD.

The hooks on the shower curtain are entirely cropped from one shot - making a very dull frame entirely made up of shower-curtain on the DVD. The hooks are surely the point of the shot as they are later to be ripped off.

I watched only the first half of the film but time after time, the composition seems more satisfying in the television ratio. It is well-known that Hitch used his tv crew to make the film on a tight budget. It was certainly conceived as a cinema-event - offering the viewers shocking things they could not see on television. So it's ironic that telly should turn out to be showing us things the DVD misses out! Now, again, the question is just how much of the picture was seen in the cinema? :shock:

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Psycho was photographed in open matte. That is the same as 1.37:1. But the viewing ratio is 1.85:1. And that is exactly the format of the DVD releases. The 35 mm prints was released with the open matte format and was cropped on screen in the cinemas.

But there is one scene where the frame is cropped in all prints. The shower scene. The censoship of the early sixities would never have agreed to release a movie where you could risk seeing certain parts of the female anatomy. But, as I recall, it was only the lower part of the frame that was cropped.

Also you must keep in mind that a TV always have some overscan. Small portions of the frame is not visible because of that.

This is the information on the DVD. That includes the black bars.
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Note the showerhead right at the top of the picture.

This is what you most probably get on your widescreen TV
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No showerhead.

I am absolutely shure that the ideal aspect ratio for Psycho would be the old European widescreen ratio 1.66:1. It's not as "claustrophobic" as the 1.85:1 ratio but it's not as high as 1.37:1. And you can trust me on this. I was a projectionist at a movie theatre with that ratio and Psycho looked far better there than on the DVD.


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I agree with you, I work in film restoration field, ideally for 1.37, I alway go for a 1.66 transfert, give or take a few adjustments. Never crop to 1.33, it's awful like zoomboxing.

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 Post subject: Re: Psycho, aspect ratio
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:11 pm 
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A little late in the day, but I finally got around to transferring a 1.33:1 VHS transfer to the PC. Here are some grabs with the R1 DVD transfer (with a green border) overlaid on top...

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As you can see, the 1.33:1 formatting of the shower scene differs from others -- it's a much tighter crop of the 1.66:1 original frame (I've left some transparency in the overlaid DVD image). Even with that tighter crop, the 1.33:1 transfer still reveals Janet Leigh's moleskin costume (most noticeable as she turns away from the attacker and leaves her back exposed).

I suspect Ken Mogg is correct and 1.75:1 would be a more ideal transfer ratio. However, it's probably also worth noting that 1.75:1 wouldn't restore that much more vertical info to the existing 1.85:1 transfer. The R1 DVD is matted to 1.85:1 but the actual transfer frame ratio is 1.775:1 (852x480 pixels). If you try and picture this untouched frame grab from the R1 DVD without the added black matte bars, then that would be a 1.775:1 frame...

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Some good news is that the HD transfer of the film broadcast on the HDNet channel last year seems to be an unmatted 1.775:1 frame. See this blog post for a series of frame grabs. It might be a fairly safe assumption to presume that the Blu-ray release of "Psycho" (whenever it appears!) will also be unmatted 1.775:1, which would be very close to version Gus Van Sant recalls seeing.


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 Post subject: Re: Psycho, aspect ratio
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:17 am 
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Very interesting stuff. Thanks for putting those together, DaveyP! Your third still frame gives a great demonstration of what can be lost in a cropped image of an open matte frame. It's interesting to note along with this that Hitchcock used John L. Russell from his television production crew as cinematographer on Psycho instead of Robert Burks who worked on every Hitchcock film from Dial M for Murder through Marnie with Psycho being the lone exception. One wonders how much Russell had it in mind that Psycho would be cropped in theatrical presentations.

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 Post subject: Re: Psycho, aspect ratio
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:02 pm 
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Let's hope the announced Blu-Ray is the unmatted 1.775:1 frame Davey talks about.

*fingers crossed*


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